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rivers_bend ([personal profile] rivers_bend) wrote2010-01-03 10:46 am
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art and a meme

Because I ask so sweetly she's so awesome, [livejournal.com profile] dreamlittleyo has drawn Gaila-is-super-pleased-with-a-piece-of-tech-she-just-fixed/made art. And it is SO GRIN-INDUCING. You really, really must can go see it

here


and then...
Ask me any fandom-related questions in the comments. They can be fandom specific, general, or about fandom/lj stuff/fic writing/etc. in general. Questions can be as wacky as you want and have as many subparts as you like. Ask me about tv shows, characters, fanfic in general, fandom issues/meta, anything about any of my stories specifically. Whatever you want. The only thing I ask is that you not formulate any questions based in any way at all on spoilers for any shows. Thank you!
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[identity profile] andreth47.livejournal.com 2010-01-04 12:21 am (UTC)(link)
Please forgive me if this is inappropriate or intrusive, but I would love to hear from someone who has been around the fandom for a while and who obviously adores Sam and Dean: what do you think of their characterization in S5? Especially in terms of writing them in fic...do you feel that their characters are changing and are hard to get a grip on?

I'm a relative n00b (started watching in late S3), but I feel as if they are so hard to grasp in terms of motivation lately. They seem so distant, or occluded, or something. I was just wondering if you felt that way too.

Please feel free to ignore the question, if you're not comfortable answering. :D

[identity profile] rivers-bend.livejournal.com 2010-01-04 01:53 am (UTC)(link)
Ask away! :D

Truthfully, I have written almost NO canon-era fic at all since the end of Season three. So, yes, I do find them harder to get a grip on, but not just in S5. Part of it is my disinclination to read/write any angst. And it's been all angst all the time in canon. But it's also hard with the fourth wall crumbling the way it is for me to reconcile fan fiction and canon.

In truth, I didn't start watching in real time until S3, but I was writing fic earlier than that. I loved writing in-canon S1 and S2 fic. things were much more straightforward then. Now Sam and Dean are complicated by a whole lot of stuff that might make for great TV, but isn't so good for what I am generally after, which is writing about their epic love.
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[identity profile] andreth47.livejournal.com 2010-01-04 02:19 am (UTC)(link)
But it's also hard with the fourth wall crumbling the way it is for me to reconcile fan fiction and canon.

Because with the blurred boundary between canon, and what we do, it's harder to slip into the headspace necessary for fic writing? That space is too hard to define now?

For me, it's harder with nu!Show simply because the boys aren't as close (seemingly), and so all the work of reconciliation becomes part of every fic I try to write, and that's difficult. I'm working on a theory, or a feeling, though: that there's a desperation to them now, a need for each other in the face of what's coming, that can be a great catalyst for first-time, breaking-down-of-barriers, kind of stuff...

I don't have any answers of course, but I'm trying to find some, because I refuse to believe that their epic love has died. It's what's going to save the world...and I believe Kripke knows that, too. *clings to hope* :D

[identity profile] wednesday-d.livejournal.com 2010-01-09 12:33 am (UTC)(link)
This is kinda late, but I've wanted to ask this question to an author who writes wincest for a long time. It's kinda stupid, so excuse me if you find it a bit ridiculous :D

When I watched season four, I could barely stand Sam, he seemed so selfish and blind that he got on my nerves in almost every episode. I'd like to ask what your opinion is and if this affected you in any way when writing a story.

[identity profile] rivers-bend.livejournal.com 2010-01-09 12:44 am (UTC)(link)
I don't think it's a stupid question at all. The end of S3 and S4 are about 90% of the reason I write almost entirely weecest now. I love the show still, but it is almost totally separate from my love for fanfic now. Not specifically because of either of the boys, but because of how they both were portrayed and because of all the angst. I don't like angst in my fanfic.