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posted by [personal profile] rivers_bend at 08:11am on 20/10/2007 under ,
I've been seeing the news about JK's outing of Dumbledore all over my f'list but only this morning saw:

"Oh, my god," Rowling concluded with a laugh, "the fan fiction."

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posted by [identity profile] gregoria44.livejournal.com at 03:26pm on 20/10/2007
Ha! I love the idea that she checks out the fanfiction.

And you know, I bet she does.

Whilst laughing and/or clutching her hand to her mouth in awe-struck horror.

"Oh God, what hath I wrought?!"

Mind you, as I commented to [livejournal.com profile] bachlava, it's a shame she's opted to gayify one of the dead characters who was rather past his physical prime anyhow!

I suppose he did opt for glamorous robes and curly shoes rather more often than some...

And does this render McGonagall a fag hag?
 
posted by [identity profile] rivers-bend.livejournal.com at 03:35pm on 20/10/2007
*giggles*

I now have an image of JK saying in a very Talking Heads-esque manner, "My god, what have I done?"

Yes, it would have been rather more exciting for her to have outed Sirius, but I'm used to crumbs from the table.

McGonagall was totally shagging Madame Hooch. *g*
 
posted by [identity profile] gregoria44.livejournal.com at 03:46pm on 20/10/2007
...who mysteriously disappeared from the films after Philstone, or am I mistaken?

Can't believe Zoe Wanamaker was THAT busy with the highbrow art of 'My Family'.

Oh, I know that there was no place for her on the storyboard in the grander scheme of things, but I like seeing her cute face.

Will have to settle for my vids of Gormenghast, I suppose.

Is this off-topic? YES IT IS!!
 
posted by [identity profile] purridot.livejournal.com at 03:32pm on 20/10/2007
I am always the last to know *everything*! Still, I think it is cool. Even if she didn't admit to Black/Lupin (yet ;-)
 
posted by [identity profile] rivers-bend.livejournal.com at 03:36pm on 20/10/2007
I'm not holding my breath on Lupin, seeing as she seemed to go out of her way to make him straight. But there's always a possibility with Sirius :D
 
posted by [identity profile] myownghost.livejournal.com at 04:26pm on 20/10/2007
well, maybe not entirely straight. some of us are bi. ;)
 
posted by [identity profile] rivers-bend.livejournal.com at 04:30pm on 20/10/2007
some of us are bi.
Oh, absolutely! In the real world. My experience with the world of children's/teens' fiction though? Is that dichotomy is king. More's the pity.
 
posted by [identity profile] myownghost.livejournal.com at 04:40pm on 20/10/2007
ah, good point. when i was a kid, NO ONE in fiction was gay, so there has been some progress. of course, there's still a long way to go -- witness the gasps from the audience that greeted JKR's words. i look for the day when this wouldn't shock anyone at all...
 
posted by [identity profile] rivers-bend.livejournal.com at 04:45pm on 20/10/2007
Definite progress. There was Annie on my Mind when I was young. That was pretty much it. Every year it gets a little better.

Oh, there was also the Green and Blue Riders in Anne McCaffrey's Pern books. That was something :)

But oh yes, I do hope that I live to see the day where it's neither here nor there.
 
posted by [identity profile] purridot.livejournal.com at 04:45pm on 20/10/2007
I dunno, his relationship with Tonks seems a bit... I don't know how to describe it... more comforting than romantic/soul-matey. But that's only my impression. (I like Tonks, however). Or, as other people have stated, maybe Lupin *is* bi. It just seemed to me that JKR made such an effort earlier to establish a tight bond between Lupin and Black; but such a bond doesn't have to be sexual, really. I'm disappointed she didn't give Lupin more to do in the later books, especially as she said in an interview that he was one of her favourite characters :-(
 
posted by [identity profile] rivers-bend.livejournal.com at 04:48pm on 20/10/2007
I could have done with more Lupin myself. I do remember wondering if she made the relationship with Tonks in rebellion against the S/L fanfic though. Mostly because it seemed a little forced. Though there's always the reading that he gave in to her because she was Sirius' cousin and he missed S so much...

Ach, I don't know enough about this fandom to say.
 
posted by [identity profile] ennui-blue-lite.livejournal.com at 03:49pm on 20/10/2007
I'm one of about eight people on the planet who isn't a Harry Potter maniac (so this Dumbledore thing is just meh to me), but I do adore writers/actors/creators admiting to reading fanfiction, especially if they're shamed faced and giggling embarrassedly over it. Yay for JK Rowling!
 
posted by [identity profile] rivers-bend.livejournal.com at 04:07pm on 20/10/2007
There are many more than 8 of you, my dear *g* I have at least 8 on my f'list which is hardly massive. ;)

I was reading one of the rejection letters she got when she was first shopping the first book, and I so have to wonder what that person is feeling now.
 
posted by [identity profile] lostakasha.livejournal.com at 03:58pm on 20/10/2007
I've seen one of the films so I'm not the one to comment, but [livejournal.com profile] copperwash is a total fan. When I saw your post and told her, she was all "huh? really? hmm." So... wow, I married a woman with broken fictional gaydar. Go figure.
 
posted by [identity profile] rivers-bend.livejournal.com at 04:12pm on 20/10/2007
Did [livejournal.com profile] copperwash read the seventh book yet? Though even if she did, it was SOOOOOOO long that I can see how one could miss it.

That, or the tequila is leading to nothing but non-committal responses? ;)

that icon is exceedingly distracting. keep catching it out of the corner of my eye and losing my train of thought entirely.
 
posted by [identity profile] runedgirl.livejournal.com at 05:10pm on 20/10/2007
OK now I can't get the damn lyrics to "Love is in the Air" out of my head!!:)))

And my daughter is dancing around saying "I *thought* so!" and I'm just more convinced than ever that sub-text should be renamed dom-text:))

Kat
 
posted by [identity profile] rivers-bend.livejournal.com at 05:14pm on 20/10/2007
Thank you for that. Now I have "Love is in the Air" in my head too! :P

And yeah, it really was pretty much text in book 7. Though she left just enough wiggle room that people who would have squicked could avoid it if they had to.

Your daughter makes me happy with her dancing *g*
 
posted by [identity profile] diachrony.livejournal.com at 04:16am on 21/10/2007
Boy, I'm glad you said that. I was just coming back here to ask you if you saw that in Book 7 or was it just me? Because unfortunately I have some conservative Xtians on my f'list who are PISSY about this. I got in a conversation with one of them, saying I wasn't surprised at all because I thought it was pretty clear in Book 7, even though before that, it had never occurred to me to think about Dumbledore's sexuality. And she said she hadn't seen that at all and it makes her really angry when the rug is pulled out from her regarding a character she thinks she knows well, and the whole thing of Dumbledore being gay is completely irrelevant and therefore the author should just shut up. I pointed out 1) JKR couldn't very well allow a scriptwriter to turn her gay character straight w/o saying something and 2) when she's asked a direct question about the character's love life, why shouldn't she be honest?

No response - which is probably a good thing because I think she would have flamed me ... and also I doubt she has a very logical response. It's a knee-jerk negative reaction on her part, I think.

I don't know how I ended up with conservative, right-wing het Xtians and liberal, polyamorous bisexual Pagans on the same friends list. Don't tell on me. ::blinks::
 
posted by [identity profile] rivers-bend.livejournal.com at 04:31am on 21/10/2007
I think it's good to have a diverse f'list :) Though I'm pretty sure mine is more at the LPBP end of the spectrum...

I first saw this news on a HUGE comm of celeb gossip, that I surfed to somehow, and there were several people on the comments who seemed miffed/upset/angry about it. Which (given I hang out almost exclusively in slash comms) shocked the heck out of me.

I don't think I'd considered D's sexuality before book seven at all, but it was pretty clear to me that he was in love with, and not just in a man-crush sort of way, G in book seven. It's not irrelevant. No more so than that Harry's not in love with Hermione but Ron is. Granted, without book 7 it wouldn't really be relevant, no more so than knowing who Madame Hooch was dating. But we had all that Dumbledore back story, and it is important. His feelings for and about G play a huge part in the decisions he made and the actions he took. Pretending it was something other than it was would be lying and stupid.
 
posted by [identity profile] tabularassa.livejournal.com at 06:33pm on 20/10/2007
I am still smiling at the whole thing:)
 
posted by [identity profile] rivers-bend.livejournal.com at 06:35pm on 20/10/2007
It's hard not to *g*

Canon gay always gives me a happy.
 
posted by [identity profile] tabularassa.livejournal.com at 06:37pm on 20/10/2007
Yup.

Love that icon, btw:)
 
posted by [identity profile] rivers-bend.livejournal.com at 06:40pm on 20/10/2007
I wish I knew who made that icon so I could credit. I HATE not crediting. But it was stolen for given to me as a gift and the giver said she didn't know where it came from, and I loved it too much to not use it just because of the not credited thing.

whoa that was long-winded! *g*
 
posted by [identity profile] tabularassa.livejournal.com at 01:37am on 21/10/2007
Haha. I know what you mean. I'm not an icon-stealer either, but sometimes I just forget who made them, but they've all been from icon communities and the like, so I'm pretty sure I'm safe:)
 
posted by [identity profile] fallen-arazil.livejournal.com at 12:21am on 21/10/2007
I'm kinda sad. I mean, Dumbledore was a beloved character at all, but was probably at the age where his sexuality isn't even all that interesting anymore. Plus, I'm often a little sad when a fictional character has their sexuality outright stated either way--I like the ambiguity.

Mind, I've only read one of the book and seen three of the movies, but I still would have prefered if one of the characters in the primary age group was the one she outed--I mean, the Weasleys alone had to have had at least one gay child, statistically, right?
 
posted by [identity profile] rivers-bend.livejournal.com at 03:29am on 21/10/2007
I do see what you mean, but the way she did it; someone asked if D was ever in love, and she was just clarifying that yes, that love affair she wrote at such great length about when he was a teen was his great love. so that worked for me.

It would have been nice if she outed one of those in Harry's or his parent's generation though.
 
posted by [identity profile] victorian-tweed.livejournal.com at 09:05am on 21/10/2007
Too little, too late :-P

Call me cynical, but it just feels like such an afterthought, y'know?

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